# Want to change order of presets **URL:** \ **Category:** Get Help\ **Created:** [January 18, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676 "2024-01-18T13:55:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![danmenkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@danmenkin](https://forum.fxsound.com/u/danmenkin)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676/1 "2024-01-18T13:55:07Z")
My presets only appear at bottom; i jump back and forth between two of my custom presets and would like to have them at the top - is this possibly a feature that could be added? Like the drag-and-drop ability in Windows bookmark lists, please? ---
**Author:** ![doolhoofd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fxsound.com/doolhoofd/32/1131_2.png) [@doolhoofd](https://forum.fxsound.com/u/doolhoofd)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676/2 "2024-01-18T16:16:06Z")
Hi Dan, While I also quite like the idea, I am nevertheless going to have to disappoint you here, since this would interfere with the way the software stores Presets (default ones on top, additional ones below). To paraphrase the PawnStars meme: “Best I can do is [this hack trick](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/another-saving-presets-victim/2539/16)” - which allows a user to transfer added Presets to the default location, and, upon closer consideration, perhaps also allows for the inverse (to transfer default Presets to the location where additional Presets are stored). But, I haven’t tested this second possibility yet. I should also conclude by emphasising that **messing with these settings is done completely at your own risk.** ---
**Author:** ![danmenkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@danmenkin](https://forum.fxsound.com/u/danmenkin)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 4:43pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676/3 "2024-01-18T16:43:29Z")
Thank you for the hack suggestion; i tried but no luck. Another possibility: FxSound only allows custom presets to be deleted, not the installed ones. If the “delete preset” option were available for ALL presets, that would allow all unused presets to be deleted (perhaps after exporting to a backup file?), then i would only have the few custom ones that i always use at top for much easier access. Also, i tried the control-shift-up arrow shortcut to move to the preset above on the list, but nothing happens. Any suggestions? Even this feature would reduce time shifting from my one custom preset to the other and back again. In appreciation, --dan ---
**Author:** ![doolhoofd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fxsound.com/doolhoofd/32/1131_2.png) [@doolhoofd](https://forum.fxsound.com/u/doolhoofd)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676/4 "2024-01-18T16:44:17Z")
If you only wish to change the order of your additional Presets inside their own dedicated menu, then I’m guessing the [instructions on importing and exporting Presets](https://www.fxsound.com/learning-center/importing-and-exporting-presets) will probably get the job done. Start by exporting your additional Presets in bulk to any different folder; next, delete them one by one from within the main interface by clicking Delete Preset in the Settings menu; and then import them again one by one in the desired order. ---
**Author:** ![doolhoofd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fxsound.com/doolhoofd/32/1131_2.png) [@doolhoofd](https://forum.fxsound.com/u/doolhoofd)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676/5 "2024-01-18T16:53:32Z")
> [@danmenkin](#): > > Another possibility: FxSound only allows custom presets to be deleted, not the installed ones. If the “delete preset” option were available for ALL presets, that would allow all unused presets to be deleted (perhaps after exporting to a backup file?), then i would only have the few custom ones that i always use at top for much easier access. See the same hack trick I posted earlier… I really wouldn’t recommend it, but, you could try simply deleting the default Presets from the Factsoft folder (after having copied and saved them). > [@danmenkin](#): > > Also, i tried the control-shift-up arrow shortcut to move to the preset above on the list, but nothing happens. Any suggestions? Even this feature would reduce time shifting from my one custom preset to the other and back again. We are currently actively working on that. > > > V1.1.20.0 introduced customizable Shortcuts in response to tireless demand from …users, but, while doing so, only left users the option to cycle Presets forwards/downwards through the list using the new "Change Preset" Shortcut. > Since then, multiple forum users have voiced their desire for the addition - or, one might say, the return - of an option to also cycle Presets backwards/upwards via the Shortcuts, instead of only forwards. ---
**Author:** ![danmenkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@danmenkin](https://forum.fxsound.com/u/danmenkin)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676/6 "2024-01-18T17:24:40Z")
And where, please, might i find you could try simply deleting the default Presets from the **Factsoft folder**? ---
**Author:** ![doolhoofd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fxsound.com/doolhoofd/32/1131_2.png) [@doolhoofd](https://forum.fxsound.com/u/doolhoofd)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676/7 "2024-01-18T17:57:23Z")
> [@danmenkin](#): > > And where, please, might i find you could try simply deleting the default Presets from the **Factsoft folder**? As mentioned in the trick posted by @FX.Love, the Factsoft folder can be found on your hard drive, under the path C: \ Program Files \ FxSound LLC \ FxSound \ Factsoft ---
**Author:** ![danmenkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@danmenkin](https://forum.fxsound.com/u/danmenkin)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676/8 "2024-01-18T18:21:46Z")
Thanks for all your help, but nothing seems to work. So i’m hoping you can get the control-shift-up or down arrow shortcut working as that will basically give me a very easy way to switch between my two custom presets at bottom of list. In appreciation, --dan ---
**Author:** ![doolhoofd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fxsound.com/doolhoofd/32/1131_2.png) [@doolhoofd](https://forum.fxsound.com/u/doolhoofd)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676/9 "2024-01-18T19:17:48Z")
> [@danmenkin](#): > > Thank you for the hack suggestion; i tried but no luck. @danmenkin I just successfully removed all default Presets by following the instructions provided… Before: ![before](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fxsound/original/2X/4/466b330bcda5a3157028d2de313d3830639d1d2f.jpeg) * * * * * * * * * * * * After: ![after](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fxsound/original/2X/3/305b77c4d493e14aba9b5b9562dcbae09af1f3db.jpeg) * * * * * * * * * * * * The full instructions to the trick are repeated again below. Please note that when the instructions mention “exiting FxSound completely,” this is what you need to do: ![exit](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fxsound/original/2X/e/e823b05418efe93241ecb08f72c72c0d1c89e410.jpeg) * * * * * * * * * * * * [https://forum.fxsound.com/t/another-saving-presets-victim/2539/16](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/another-saving-presets-victim/2539/16) > [@Another "Saving Presets" Victim](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/another-saving-presets-victim/2539/16): > > There are (12) Default Presets and (12) Bonus Presets . The Bonus Presets were added to > > - %userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\FxSound\Presets > > This seems to be the same place Custom User Presets reside…therefore hitting the (10) limit, and not allowing me to save more presets. So I tricked FXSound by doing the following: > > 1. Exit FX Sound completely. > 2. Move all Bonus Presets from > [%userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\FxSound\Presets], **to** > [C:\Program Files\FxSound LLC\FxSound\Factsoft] > 3. Open FXSound, edit and save presents is allowed > 4. Make a backup of [both locations default and custom) > > Hope this helps others. 🙏 > Thank you for such an awesome free app! > Cheerio 😍 ---
**Author:** ![doolhoofd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fxsound.com/doolhoofd/32/1131_2.png) [@doolhoofd](https://forum.fxsound.com/u/doolhoofd)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676/10 "2024-01-18T19:47:33Z")
Come to think about it, with a bit of effort, any user could create any desired list of Presets in any desired order with this trick… However, I guess it bears repeating that: ‼ **This hack is illegitimate voodoo, not officially condoned or encouraged by FxSound in any way, and employed entirely at the user’s own risk at all times.** ‼ ---
**Author:** ![danmenkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@danmenkin](https://forum.fxsound.com/u/danmenkin)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676/11 "2024-01-19T18:52:23Z")
Thanks again for trying to help. But i’m afraid you are using an earlier version as the pictures and instructions you send don’t match what i get on-screen. Anyhow, i’ve taken way too much of your time, and hopefully soon the switch-presets shortcuts will be working. Now if i press control+alt+A, preset will switch to the one below it, but if i want the one above, i need to press 12 times to rotate through the entire list. I wish there were a control+alt+? to switch to the preset above. In appreciation, --dan ---
**Author:** ![doolhoofd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fxsound.com/doolhoofd/32/1131_2.png) [@doolhoofd](https://forum.fxsound.com/u/doolhoofd)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.fxsound.com/t/want-to-change-order-of-presets/2676/12 "2024-01-19T19:02:46Z")
> [@danmenkin](#): > > Thanks again for trying to help. That’s what I’m here for. > [@danmenkin](#): > > i’m afraid you are using an earlier version I’m using the latest version, v1.1.20.0, available from [fxsound.com](http://fxsound.com) .